Kardashev scale of alien civilization in Independence Day?

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The Kardashev scale is a way of measuring a hypothetical civilization's ability to harness energy.

This scale has always made me think about the movie Independence Day (1996), my favorite example of a villainous alien civilization. Dr. Okun claims their technology is far more advanced than ours, and the evidence bears that out. From what I can tell, the aliens own significant advances in weaponry and transportation, to name just a few areas (yet were somehow completely undone by a few lines of code and a lowly nuke? But I digress...)

Anyways, given what we know about this species and their technology, is there in-universe evidence to suggest if this species might be categorized as Type II or Type III (or higher?) on the Kardashev scale?



Best Answer

The harvesters are probably a Type 1 civilization

from the scene where the president interacts with the captured alien:

          PRESIDENT
  He wanted me to understand.  He
  communicated with me.
      (turning to Grey)
  They're like locusts.  They travel
  from planet to planet, their whole
  civilization.  After they've
  consumed every natural resource
  they move on.  And we're next.

From this description of their behavior they must have reached the level of type 1

A Type I civilization, also called a planetary civilization—can use and store all of the energy available on its planet.

There is no evidence of them attempting to harness the energy output of the sun, instead they find another planet to consume.

With no way to know the energy output required for their shields or interstellar travel we can't really judge how far along they are in type 1




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What is a Type 0.8 civilization?

Type 0.8: Liberal democracies that give the vote to all citizens. Markets that begin to embrace a nonzero, win-win economic game through free trade with other states.

What is a Type 13 civilization?

A Type XIII civilization exist on higher planes outside reality as supreme beings of the Light, and try to find out what exists in the 5th realm. Entered the middle tier of the Light.

What are the aliens from Independence Day?

The actual aliens in the film are diminutive and based on a design Tatopoulos drew when tasked by Emmerich to create an alien that was "both familiar and completely original". These creatures wear "bio-mechanical" suits that are based on another design Tatopoulos pitched to Emmerich.

Where are humans on the Kardashev scale 2021?

Where are humans on the Kardashev scale? If working only within the basic categories, humans are a type I civilization on the Kardashev scale (a civilization with a working Dyson sphere structure harvesting its star's light would qualify as type II).



What Do Alien Civilizations Look Like? The Kardashev Scale




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