How does the Joker (2019) fit into the established Batman timeline?
In the new Joker movie the Joker is about 45 years old (based on appearance and Joaquin Phoenix's real age).
In one scene in the movie it is shown how Thomas and Martha Wayne die.
So, given that there is an age gap of probably about 15-20 years between young Bruce Wayne and Batman, does that mean that Batman would fight a 60+ year old Joker in this universe?
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Joker is a character study movie, it is loosely based on the super villain Joker from the DC universe, but it is not a typical super-hero movie.
"Joker movie would still work even if DC Comics did not exist", as commented by Kevin Smith.
As you stated, near the end of this movie, it is shown that the Waynes are shot and killed but it does not mean that this Joker played by Joaquin Phoenix is the Joker we expect him to be.
- Given the age difference, this Joker by Joaquin Phoenix cannot be the super villain Joker but we have to admit that it has never been explicitly stated that they are the same person. In theory, this Joker by Joaquin Phoenix could be an inspiration of the super villain Joker, who can be at a younger age at the time.
- There is one way to know for sure how this Joker by Joaquin Phoenix fits in with the DC storyline, and that is via a sequel. But the movie director and Joaquin Phoenix have made it known that this Joker movie is an independent movie and there is no plan for a sequel (I would personally say they will seriously consider a sequel now with its success at the box office)
- Some viewers also speculated with evidence that the whole movie could be all happening in this Joker's head, given his unreliable narrator status.
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Where does Joker fall in Batman timeline?
The movie, starring Joaquin Phoenix as an unstable stand-up comedian who becomes the notorious Batman villain, takes place in Gotham City around the late 1970s, early 1980s (early reports said 1981, although that's not mentioned in Warner Bros. ' official synopsis).How does the new Joker movie tie into Batman?
In the process, Arthur Fleck becomes idolized by criminals and becomes a beacon for disorder. These events also lead to Bruce Wayne losing his parents and, presumably, becoming Batman later on. In other words, The Joker created Batman in this universe.Is Joker 2019 connected to The Batman?
While there seems to be a connection between the two DC movies for fans, that's not necessarily the case for the filmmakers behind The Batman and Joker. Matt Reeves has been attached to his project about the Caped Crusader for years before Joker became a reality, so it was just never in the cards.What is the timeline of Joker 2019?
Set in 1981, it follows Arthur Fleck, a failed clown and aspiring stand-up comedian whose descent into insanity and nihilism inspires a violent counter-cultural revolution against the wealthy in a decaying and destroyed Gotham City.Why \
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I hadn't thought that the "whole thing" could be in his head... imagine this is partially true.
Arthur, has a habit of seeing something and expanding on it in his fantasies.
What if that unrest was happening, but not the way he imagined it. There were riots and the Waynes were killed, but it had nothing to do with him.
Let's say he did kill some people. Perhaps just his mother. Perhaps even as depicted on the Murray show or something like that. He then is sent to Arkham where he meets a younger inmate who is properly dangerously insane... and tells that inmate his fantasy version of events... inspiring The Joker.
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