What is Yidu’s medicine?

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In the 4th season of Vikings there is a new character named Yidu that is presented as a Chinese slave. In the 4th episode of Season 4, for the first time she gives Ragnar a plant that she says is a medicine, but that obviously would be considered a drug in modern terms, because Ragnar gets highly addicted to it.

First I thought it was opium. It would make sense, because opium is mainly produced in Asia (the girl is Chinese), and by that time, 9th century, opium was already well known in Asia as a type of medical plant. Furthermore, Ragnar represents some of the typical symptoms of opium like sweating and the euphoric state.

But, this post here suggests that most likely the plant is Betel Nuts or a Paan blend and it lists a number of arguments why it can be so.

Is there anything definitive that answers this question?



Best Answer

I argree with @ankrit-sharma, the linked article from inquisitr.com holds weight as the ingredients were available during the appropriate era.

  1. Wild limes probably originated in the Indonesian archipelago or the nearby mainland of Asia. date back to 1AD, which confirms that they would have been plentiful.

  2. The Betel Plant comes from South/Southeast Asia possibly the area that Yidu was from.

  3. The Silk Road (or Routes) were used between 130BC and the 15th century. (see image), and

  4. Rollo's treaty was during the 10th century, which establishes the Viking age betwen the 9th and 10th centuries (see image).

Combining this data makes "quid" the most logical substance for the "medicine" Yidu was preparing and backs up the article from inquisitr.com. hmmm... I wonder if that's how Brittan's "Quid" currency evolved.

"The Silk Road" trade routes

Rollo's Treaty of 911AD




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Answer 2

Neither of the guessed herbs are potent enough to produce the obvious hallucinogenic-like response/acting (hand gestures and jaw wagging/tongue flapping is as good as taken directly from Johnny Deep's portrayal of severe tripping in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas). Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (3/10) Movie CLIP - The Hotel on Acid (1998) HD

Of the three mentioned drugs assumed to be ingested, opium in any notable dose would simply lead to dream-state sleep, betel nut is a stimulant and would merely produce an excited state, as for kratom - don't make me laugh. Even if you combined all 3 in large doses, again, no.

Obviously not mushrooms, we've seen many a mushroom trip ("food of the gods" variety, not magic mushrooms, though similar chemically yet as different to Ayahuasca as Saliva is to Ibogaine).

Datura is a possibility, although unlikely, though some can be partial to its power & although not become addicted can be "seduced" by the proposed knowledge and feelings of magical power it is reported to facilitate, shall we say.

In the original scene Yidu is shown chopping and preparing numerous herbs, Chinese medicine is renowned for having active and inactive ingredients, likely of the 8 or so shown only 2 or 3 are psychoactive, possibly having an accumulative action - returning to Ayahuasca (though I stress this is extremely unlikely, not only based on the shown preparation but it is of South American origin), my point is as follows: the actual plant typically named Ayahuasca (Banisteriopsis caapi) is NOT the psychoactive part but aids in the absorption of the DMT-containing Psychotria viridis. I'd propose something similar is ingested in the scene hence the "need" for numerous herbs, stalks etc. (Often medicines contents we're "trade secrets" of healers hence the addition of numerous inactive herbs/spice, whatever.)

So to conclude, I have not proved what is ingested but believe I have disproved the suggested actual hallucinogenic (not stimulant (betel nut) or hypnotic opium/kratom) though betel nut, lime, wrapped in a leaf (hence the red mouth/lip scenario) (I must add this is "plugged" as a quid similar to chewing tobacco, not shown in show... so oh and you are 100% not to swallow betel nut, it is absorbed through the mouth facilitated by the lime, the leaf component is merely flavoring and "packaging") so it "may" have been part of the final concoction but highly unlikely - therefore I say the search is still on but it's in the realm of hallucinogenics of which there are literally 100's upon 100's of choices. I simple wiki search provides a number of possibilities Wiki - Chinese "Herbals"

Having read a little of the above wiki post (Henbane, Various Mushrooms, and at least 4 other powerful sounding plants as well as the fore-mentioned Datura were all used in china, although I don't think it's Datura there's another side of me thinking it might be combined with the plant I mention below "Maogen: Ranunculus japonicus". There are still 6 or 7 other possibilities not including cannabis (yes it can cause hallucinations but not in the external appearance seen in the show. Fly agarica and forms of psylocybin mushrooms are also well documented in China, As I mentioned above, "Maogen: Ranunculus japonicus" is a plant whose negative effects are "sometimes with blood-spitting" though considered extremely poisonous (maybe the intent? She is most definitely a sorceress as suggested in her tale on the ships as a prisoner and why she was left alone) anyway it's "bad effects" are counteracted with licorice (more mouth discoloration) all to produce the red saliva scenario.. In any case, I think it's a bit of this, a bit of (maybe) that plant "Ranunculus japonicus", a bit of another, all with hallucinogenic properties and prepared to reduce negative effects (she was seen crumbling 1 ingredient, chopping others, using a mortar & pistle thus a bunch of herbs to ease their ingestion.

At least Toads are 100% ruled out. Keep searching.

please excuse the "choppiness" of this post, it was edited a number of times and hardly proof read. I wont get any prizes for correct spelling now will I? :)

Answer 3

First of all, no scene shows him swallowing it. Opium is smoked, not eaten. Also the IV form, heroin. I have been on pain meds for 8+ years, am now thankful I am off them, but hydromorphone (dilaudid) or any other opiate will not make you hallucinate. Kratom is an evergreen tree leaf from the middle east known for opiate like qualities when brewed into tea or the powder eaten. AYAHUASCA would make sense, and also because it's wrapped in a leaf. There are plenty of things that make DMT (it's in every living creature), but you can eat DMT concentrate it won't do anything. Your stomach acids break the DMT into harmless protein. P. Hermella seeds, and other things can inhibit your digestive system to NOT breakdown DMT (10x stronger then acid) then after 45 min. or so, it would start to activate.

Answer 4

I would have thought kratom leaf, which is an opioid helping with physical and emotional pain, likely with something else wrapped inside to make it more potent. But how would she have access to that where she is now?

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