How come Maesters have not yet figured out what cured Shireen?

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The job of the Maesters is to keep track and communicate about historical events throughout Westeros (among other things).

It would make sense that the infection of Stannis Baratheon's daughter by greyscale would have been communicated to the Citadel as the Maesters are also men of science and practice medicine.

Obviously, Shireen was cured from greyscale spreading through her entire body not thanks to the Maesters because they have no safe method to cure Greyscale.

This strikes me as odd though. There aren't that many things about Dragonstone except it is a damp stone castle sitting on Dragonglass.

The Maesters know very well that it is sitting on Dragonglass so how come they have an entire book on "How to peel a human in order to cure his disease."

I mean "I died from Greyscale after writing this but peeling the skin off is your best bet OK?" and nobody bothered to test Dragonglass or whatever was used on Shireen that would cure Greyscale?



Best Answer

Its clear that the Maesters do know what cured Shireen.

From the Season 7 Episode 2 Stormborn, a conversation between Sam and the Archmaester:

SAM: Um Pardon, Archmaester. I met Stannis Baratheon's daughter at Castle Black. She had the greyscale as a baby and was cured.

EBROSE: No.

SAM: Isn't there some way...

EBROSE: Does this look like a baby to you?

SAM: No.

EBROSE: Have you studied the varying rates of greyscale progression in infants and fully grown men?

SAM: No.

EBROSE: Maester Cressen discovered Shireen Baratheon's affliction immediately. This is quite advanced. And beyond our skills, ser.




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How was Shireen cured of greyscale?

It's impossible to know how exactly Shireen was cured, as Stannis confirms in season 5's "Sons Of The Harpy" he brought in every maester, apothecary, and healer in Westeros to cure his daughter.

How did Shireen get greyscale in the books?

Stannis Baratheon explains to his daughter Shireen how she contracted greyscale as an infant, from an infected doll that he bought from a passing merchant ship from Dorne.

Who cured grayscale?

Greyscale has always been a mysterious illness in the world of Game Of Thrones; it's terminal, contagious, and (presumably) completely incurable. And yet, Samwell Tarly managed to figure out not just how to treat it, but to completely eradicate it in one of his new patients at the Citadel, Jorah Mormont.



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Answer 2

While @madmada seems to have a point, it is somewhat contradicting to what was said earlier in the show. In season 5, while Stannis Baratheon and Shireen were at Castle Black, it is mentioned a couple of times.

GILLY (gently): What do you call it in the South, what happened to your face?

SHIREEN: Greyscale. What do you call it north of the Wall?

GILLY: I don't know. But two of my sisters had it. They both died. How did they cure you?

SHIREEN: I don't remember. I was a baby. Lots of people came and tried, I think. Whatever they did, it went away. What happened to your sisters?
Game of thrones, season 5, episode 2: the House of Black and White (emphasis mine)

This seems to imply that while Maester Cressen diagnosed quickly, he didn't have a ready cure. After all, many people have to come and try above all else.

Another quote from a later episode supports this:

STANNIS: When you were an infant, (Stands up and walks around his desk), the Dornish trailer landed on Dragonstone. His goods were junk except for one wooden doll. He'd even sewn a dress on it in the colors of our House. No doubt he'd heard of your birth, and assumed new fathers were easy targets. I still remember how you smiled when I put that doll in your cradle, (Shireen smiles), and you pressed it to your cheek. (Looks down. Shireen’s smile drops). By the time we burnt the doll, it was too late. (Walks to the table and adjusts the objects on it). I was told you would die. Or worse, the grayscale would go slow. (Turns to her). Let you grow just enough to know the world before taking it away from you. Everyone advised me to send you to the ruins of Valyria to live out your short life with the Stone men, before the sickness spread to the castle. I told them all to go to hell. (Shireen smiles). I called in every maester on this side of the world. Every healer, every apothecary. They stopped the disease and saved your life. Because you did not belong across the world with the bloody Stone men. (Walks towards her). You are the Princess Shireen of House Baratheon. And you are my daughter.
Game of thrones, season 5, episode 4: Sons of the Harpy (emphasis mine).

If Maester Cressen knew to cure it simply because he found it early in an infant, he wouldn't have needed the help of every maester on this side of the world, every healer and every apothecary, would he?

None of these quotes seem to show that they really know what actually helped. Or it is just not mentioned.

Maybe however, the distinction between Jorah's greyscale and Shireen's grayscale was that they found Shireen's way earlier, which gave them the time to actually try different things, whereas Jorah's situation is a lot less sunny.

However, I would find it weird that there is no mention whatsoever about what the actual cure was, neither in the books, nor in the series. Ebrose could have said that the cure only works during early stages of the disease, or Sam could've found a book where this was noted. I think the lack of such information would make it plausible that the maesters actually don't quite know what did it.

Answer 3

To expand the other answers with a quote from the books (emphasis mine).

The curse was oft seen in children, especially in damp, cold climes. The afflicted flesh stiffened, calcified, and cracked, though the dwarf had read that greyscale's progress could be stayed by limes, mustard poultices, and scalding-hot baths (the maesters said) or by prayer, sacrifice, and fasting (the septons insisted). Then the disease passed, leaving its young victims disfigured but alive.

So it seems that greyscale is not always mortal for children. Which can mean that maybe Shireen survived simply because of luck and not because of a certain treatment. Of course it may be different in the show.

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