Who was telling the truth about Arthur-Penny-Thomas? Penny or Thomas?
In the movie Joker (2019), we see Penny claiming Arthur to be Thomas' son. We have Thomas refuting these claims as well.
We later learn that Penny was in an abusive relation and that she suffered mentally and physically. It seems like she was deluded about the father of Arthur. It could really have all been in her head.
It could also simply be Thomas covering his tracks and planting those records against Penny, which is really not a big task for a man of Thomas' stature.
Given all this, who was telling the truth about this whole scenario (Arthur's father)? I did watch the movie till the end and didn't miss any scenes but I was clueless who was telling the truth and I don't think this was addressed.
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But one day Arthur reads one of her letters before sending it out for her, and it’s revealed that she’s asking Thomas for help because Arthur is their son, a product of an affair they had all those years ago.
It’s such a big twist that it instantly seems impossible to maintain. After all these years this movie is trying to tell us that Joker and Batman were half brothers? (“The whole time? The whole time?”) Of all the twists in this movie, this one is the most unbelievable. Sure, comic book movies have to take big swings and occasionally shake up the canon to keep viewers engrossed, but a change like this would add unnecessarily meaningful dimension to the Batman–Joker rivalry. The film, however, plays it straight and presents this revelation as fact, asking viewers to just go along with it...even though Joker’s mom-and-son duo are deluded pipe dreamers who harbor absurd fantasies.
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Why did Penny lie to Arthur?
She is shown to be neglectful as she didn't save Arthur as a child from his abuse. It is currently unknown why she let this happen, but it's presumed she was abused by him as well, causing her mental problems. While she cares about her son, she has shown to lie to him multiple occasions which leads to her downfall.Did Penny adopt Arthur?
Penny Fleck is the adoptive mother of Arthur Fleck, a mentally unstable failed comedian whose lack of success and respect triggers his transformation into the Joker.Was the jokers mom telling the truth?
While the movie presents this idea as a delusion that Arthur adopts from his equally unbalanced mother, there is some evidence to suggest that Penny Fleck was telling the truth about a love affair with the famous billionaire and that he fathered her son.Is Arthur son of Thomas Wayne?
Likely not. Arthur Fleck was delusional and had the same narcissistic disorder as his mother allegedly had. Thomas Wayne could not have staged that part. Arthur kills his fictitious girlfriend and mother after possibly having a moment of clarity that his condition was no coincidence.Joker: Ending Explained: Arthur's True Father Confirmed? | ALL EVIDENCE FOR \u0026 AGAINST THE THEORY
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