Why is there is no Jonas in Martha's world?

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In the TV series "Dark", there are a couple of times where a similar question (like "How is the Jonas version of Martha's world?") arises but it is never answered.

So the question is: if both worlds, Martha's and Jonas' are similar, why is there is no Jonas in the Martha's world?



Best Answer

First of all, it’s better to refer to it as Eve’s World; Martha is a character common to both worlds, whereas Martha growing up into an old women who goes by the name Eve is the unique characteristic of the world you’re talking about.

But to answer your question, the reason why Jonas does not exist in Eve’s World is that Mikkel never time travels to the 1980’s, so he never marries Hannah and thus Jonas is never born. Why does Mikkel not time travel? Because he doesn’t go with the older kids to the cave on November 4, 2019. Why doesn’t Mikkel go to the cave? Because he’s old enough to not need a babysitter, whereas in Adam’s world (the main world seen in the first two seasons) he was younger so Martha and Magnus needed to take him with them.

So ultimately the difference between the two worlds stems from when Mikkel was conceived; he was conceived earlier in Eve’s World than in Adam’s World. Why the difference? The show doesn’t address that, but one possibility is that in Adam’s world, Mikkel’s presence in the 1980’s somehow caused Hannah to observe Ulrich and Katharina, leading to her falsely accusing Ulrich of rape. And the awkwardness of a rape accusation might have delayed Ulrich and Hannah’s eventual marriage, and thus their conceiving of Mikkel. Whereas in Eve’s world, in the absence of Mikkel’s presence in the 1980’s Hannah might never have observed Ulrich and Katharina, and in the absence of the rape accusation Ulrich and Katharina’s relationship might have progressed to marriage and children more quickly.




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Does Jonas Save Martha?

Jonas is not saved by Martha (#2), hides in basement, later meets up with the other survivors (Claudia, Noah, Elizabeth) and stays 33 years until he becomes the stranger and can travel back in time to 2019, eventually becoming Adam after he travels back in time to 1888.

Did Martha and Jonas get together?

When alternative-reality Martha and Jonas slept together in the fourth episode, they created it: their son. \u201cWhat's growing inside you is the bridge between both worlds,\u201d Adam explains \u2014 it's the beginning of the knot and also the end.

Why are Jonas and Martha the origin?

There's an origin world, in which H.G. Tannhaus created a time-travel device to try and save his son, daughter-in-law, and granddaughter. But the creation of that device created a corrupted set of twin worlds: Martha's world and Jonas' world, which in turn created the Adam and Eva personas of Jonas and Martha.



Dark S3E8-Jonas saves Alt Martha | Part 1




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