Why isn't it called "The Hateful Nine"?

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I gather that John Ruth's driver O.B. is not considered one of the "hateful eight," but he is present for all of the film's events and seems as much a part of the story as any of the others.

I like the rhyming title, but I was confused during the film about who the eight were when there were clearly nine people present at Minnie's, at least until folks start dying and

another character comes out of his hiding place.



Best Answer

General Sandy Smithers, you may recall, was just some chump sitting around a fire and wasn't really hateful towards any in the group. he had no beef with anyone, he was just in the right place at the right time. Also, Ruth's driver (O.B. Jackson) wasn't hateful towards anyone either. Which leaves:

  • Major Marquis Warren - Samuel L. Jackson
  • John Ruth - Kurt Russell
  • Daisy Domergue - Jennifer Jason Leigh
  • Sheriff Chris Mannix - Walton Goggins
  • Bob - Demián Bichir
  • Oswaldo Mobray - Tim Roth
  • Joe Gage - Michael Madsen
  • Jody - Channing Tatum

8 main players. Also, don't over look the fact that this is Tarantino's 8th movie, the movie's overture contains exactly 8 notes used repetitiously, while in the background there are 8 distinctive mountain peaks. See any "theme" there that might lend to the movie being called "The Hateful Eight"?




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Answer 2

This promotional featurette from the Weinstein Company (on the FILMISNOW YouTube) numbers and names the “eight” thus:

promo still 1 1: “The Bounty Hunter” Major Marquis Warren (Samuel L Jackson)

promo still 2 2: “The Hangman” John Ruth (Kurt Russell)

promo still 3 3: “The Confederate” General Sandy Smithers (Bruce Dern)

promo still 4 4: “The Sheriff” Chris Mannix (Walton Goggins)

promo still 5 5: “The Mexican” Bob (Demián Bichir)

promo still 6 6: “The Little Man” Oswaldo Mobray (Tim Roth)

promo still 7 7: “The Cow Puncher” Joe Gage (Michael Madsen)

promo still 8 8: “The Prisoner” Daisy Domergue (Jennifer Jason Leigh)

Answer 3

OB and sheriff Chris Mannix were not among the hateful eight because Mannix gave up his hate in the end, and apparently found somekind of redemption through accepting major Warren and the Lincoln letter. While Jody, Daisy, grouch, Bob, Pete were unredeemable killers and gang members, Smithers wrought consequences because of his hate, and John Ruth and major warren were unrepentant, retaining their hate to the end.

Answer 4

I think its because the 5 in the outlaw gang and the 3 dead outlaws that Sam Jackson's character was bringing in to town, Making 8. That to me sounds like something Tarantino would do for one last question that everyone would talk about, as well as a last laugh. Everyone else wasn't down right hateful. They had jobs to do and they did them.

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